tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post5912704562583614127..comments2024-03-17T05:18:25.566-04:00Comments on Out of the Woods: The Six Steps of The Oxford GroupDianehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14954106386693585991noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-34461190883242680032024-03-01T10:45:46.472-05:002024-03-01T10:45:46.472-05:00In our AA BB the chapter There. Is A Solution spea...In our AA BB the chapter There. Is A Solution speaks of the Fellowship and of believing in a Power great than ourselves. Also in Bill’s Story, he states ““We meet frequently so that newcomers may find the fellowship they seek. At these informal gatherings one may often see from 50 to 200 persons”*. Furthermore, in the Chapter Into Action, he states ““We feel a man is unthinking when he says that sobriety is enough. He is like the farmer who came up out of his cyclone cellar to find his home ruined. To his wife, he remarked, “Don’t see anything the matter here, Ma. Ain’t it grand the wind stopped blowin’?”” “It is easy to let up on the spiritual program of action and rest on our laurels. We are headed for trouble if we do, for alcohol is a subtle foe. We are not cured of alcoholism. What we really have is a daily reprieve contingent on the maintenance of our spiritual condition. Every day is a day when we must carry the vision of God’s will into all of our activities. “How can I best serve Thee—Thy will (not mine) be done.” These are thoughts which must go with us constantly.” These references and many more in our literary described “precisely” how they recover and stay enlarge their spiritual contact.<br /><br />Excerpt From<br />Alcoholics Anonymous<br />AA World Services, Inc.<br />https://books.apple.com/id792506888<br />This material may be protected by copyright.<br /><br />Excerpt From<br />Alcoholics Anonymous<br />AA World Services, Inc.<br />https://books.apple.com/id792506888<br />This material may be protected by copyright.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-50731036706380291452023-11-30T04:35:26.162-05:002023-11-30T04:35:26.162-05:00In the Uk...certain meetings are classed as cult m...In the Uk...certain meetings are classed as cult meetings by the GSO,York....and i know this to be true,they use...inventory,confession,and MUST convert another,known by me as 4,5 and 12...thats why the newcomer is on Step 4 a month into recovery....Do me a favour...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-79609067575435882102023-05-07T16:43:03.716-04:002023-05-07T16:43:03.716-04:00Check out Celebrate Freedom. C3 Church Troy, Mo. ...Check out Celebrate Freedom. C3 Church Troy, Mo. From recovery to freedom. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-65007245254108902972023-02-05T09:55:16.821-05:002023-02-05T09:55:16.821-05:00Not drinking or not sinning is not living a sober ...Not drinking or not sinning is not living a sober Christian life. I believe the 6 steps of the Oxford Group came from Romans 12. It is a total life changing experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-46924832056895330722023-01-07T13:17:37.741-05:002023-01-07T13:17:37.741-05:00Trust God, Clean House, Help OthersTrust God, Clean House, Help OthersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-82131259029185052282022-12-25T12:47:13.612-05:002022-12-25T12:47:13.612-05:00My thesis in college was The Pre Existence Conditi...My thesis in college was The Pre Existence Condition of Alcoholics Anonymous back in 1983. <br /><br />this is my heritage of spiritually minded people who make me who I am today.<br />"our liquor is just a symptom of deep underlying problems we had to get to our causes and condition we are now at step 4.<br /><br />This a spiritual life, Trust God (Good Orderly Direction), Clean house, help others one day at a time. I have lived a spiritual lifestyle for 0ver 45 years of sobriety. Life and Love daily. Keep coming back to keep what I have I have to give back I am always spiritually replenished one day at a timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-68608076965650399022022-12-14T17:00:11.241-05:002022-12-14T17:00:11.241-05:00No, Wally P does not want to go back to the 6 tena...No, Wally P does not want to go back to the 6 tenants. that is incorrect.<br /><br />"Back to basics" means back to the TWELCE STEPS.<br /><br />If that is considered a cult- then AA has SERIOUS problems. Arthur Burtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18114684113178419562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-10962289551159889622022-08-02T11:03:53.900-04:002022-08-02T11:03:53.900-04:00Bill wilson didn't recover either, he was drop...Bill wilson didn't recover either, he was dropping LSD with timothy leary in the 60s giving it to people in AA to have a spiritual awakeningAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-87693497049424735442022-07-23T21:15:21.071-04:002022-07-23T21:15:21.071-04:00I attended an event with one of the Oxford Group m...I attended an event with one of the Oxford Group members, Lavina, in 1994 at her home in Dayton, Ohio. She was around 90ish. The event was a Bible study and a carry-in dinner. I was Blessed to be invited by Alex, another, AA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-71553357878707435642022-07-09T13:43:27.119-04:002022-07-09T13:43:27.119-04:00Dr. Bob did not recover with the Big BookDr. Bob did not recover with the Big BookAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-75712433428396285772022-05-26T02:02:38.739-04:002022-05-26T02:02:38.739-04:00Thank you for acknowledging Secular AA!Thank you for acknowledging Secular AA!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-55485054380052307172021-12-26T22:12:26.291-05:002021-12-26T22:12:26.291-05:00www.strategychurch.comwww.strategychurch.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08386958407364248211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-19154686505868464802021-12-09T21:55:03.025-05:002021-12-09T21:55:03.025-05:00Also the amount of addicts who have ADD is overwhe...Also the amount of addicts who have ADD is overwhelming. Zone in on the core focus and maybe have greater success. 1.Confession 2. Believe in a power greater 3. Let that power redeem you. 4. Take inventory of self 5. Pray 6. Help othersAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06436242331679654576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-11172176520397901232021-12-09T21:51:03.718-05:002021-12-09T21:51:03.718-05:00Many more young people and relapsers who die when ...Many more young people and relapsers who die when they go back out could be helped by shortening the message to six steps and not depending on some peer sponsor to do the work that a professional should do. People die on the 4th step. Why drag it out? If rehabs are paid for, why aren't they going through step work with addicts? Why depend on some unpaid person to do the work with the addict? I get it works for lots of people. I also get that there is a lot of avoidable suffering in this method of bringing 12 redundant steps to a stranger to get you through. It is broken for many people, so i say it is fixable.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06436242331679654576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-51218772994325708462021-10-13T12:40:09.828-04:002021-10-13T12:40:09.828-04:00Frank Buchman Frank Buchman Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10843951971764591239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-83343726002397594052021-10-11T20:01:26.013-04:002021-10-11T20:01:26.013-04:00Who wrote Oxford groups 6 steps or was it a joint ...Who wrote Oxford groups 6 steps or was it a joint effortAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098601621573879375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-1187367499399238162021-07-26T13:13:41.009-04:002021-07-26T13:13:41.009-04:00While there are differences, the AA program is cle...While there are differences, the AA program is clearly a spiritual based program that tells one they MUST find a Higher Power and/or God of their choosing. While it may not fit the restrictive models of organized religion, it's certainly aimed at bring one closer to God. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-41776743917415665582021-05-06T01:41:49.400-04:002021-05-06T01:41:49.400-04:00Our book is suggestive only Our book is suggestive only Cuzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033111974689400543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-41008123898029877812020-10-26T18:44:42.609-04:002020-10-26T18:44:42.609-04:00I have used Wally P. for the chronic relapser. It...I have used Wally P. for the chronic relapser. It gets them through the steps fairly quickly, releasing from big spiritual blockages. They feel a relief. Then we go through the book of AA, word by word. They are more at ease with the process. the "Wally P" version requires you to use the BB of AA, you cannot complete the process without the BB's guideance..<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08919867162132902526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-3177554582595785552020-10-03T18:33:54.519-04:002020-10-03T18:33:54.519-04:00Wally P and his back to basics cult are a dangerou...Wally P and his back to basics cult are a dangerous lot. His close associates refer to him as the "Messiah of AA" and if that does not warn you of the danger nothing will. This is a cult that has learned from the mistakes of others and it operates covertly in the fellowship. It would not last 5 minutes if it came out in the open. AA recommends that the Big Book is meant for personal study and interpretation. B2B advocates the opposite which enables it to use the BB as a tool to brainwash people and to tell people that if they buy Wally Ps books, audios etc, etc they will be working the program in the real original and authentic way plus when you lay yr bucks out and do it the Wally P fast track way you will be'cured'in a matter of weeks and therefore will have superior form of sobriety. Hence the reason we have B2B ego tripping monsters who cannot be reasoned with, and who daily give the fellowship a bad name. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-91008297621949360202020-07-07T13:58:01.960-04:002020-07-07T13:58:01.960-04:00They learned not to do what the Oxford group did l...They learned not to do what the Oxford group did like their political views.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14706233572661145354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-66270482817399775672020-01-11T23:36:08.875-05:002020-01-11T23:36:08.875-05:00I don’t agree that god is the number one ingredien...I don’t agree that god is the number one ingredient to staying sober. I and many others who do not use a god of our understanding have stayed sober for many years and died sober as well. There are over 500 secular groups in the world. It amazes me how many folks do not know about them, or acknowledge them, and how some denounce them as not real AA. Tradition 3 says otherwise. Jennifer Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04965531030463887679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-44519403997984468562019-10-12T08:21:37.783-04:002019-10-12T08:21:37.783-04:00This is your typical alcoholic thread. Over-analyz...This is your typical alcoholic thread. Over-analyzing the great fact that God has revolutionized Our Lives. How he chooses to do it and who he chooses to use is his business not ours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-36810070547353104392019-08-02T23:26:58.776-04:002019-08-02T23:26:58.776-04:00So do we give credit to the non alcoholic for help...So do we give credit to the non alcoholic for helping the alcoholic to recover? I could never understand why we label them "earthlings" or saying that "they"(non alcoholics) don't get it. They obviously "get it" as far as Im concerned and by and through these 6 Steps, Bill, with Guidance was able to come up with a solution(s) for all that would help them recover, putting God first of course. <br />I realize credit is not important where the essential of Humility is a basis and essential for recovery, but when I hear these labels, the misunderstandings of our history, I think credit should be given where credit is due. Thank you Oxford Group for those 6 steps which I believe are the substance of which we do recover. Oxford wrote the Steps, Bill reworked the steps...Thank God I am clean ad sober today!Scott L.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159109.post-69997961127767737562019-07-30T19:52:20.680-04:002019-07-30T19:52:20.680-04:00I’m grateful to all who have worked to recover. I...I’m grateful to all who have worked to recover. It had all helped to build AA. <br />What does it matter whether or not AA is directly tied to the OG (😆) or how? That debate could go on & on. All I know, is that I tried & tried to get & stay sober, & AA was & still is the only thing that works. So I do that. I folow directions. It is opening up my life & it is awesome. And I respect anyone who is doing the same through whatever means works for them. Know history & be grateful is my personal approachAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com